So, I realize this blog has been getting a bit of neglect recently. I'm sincerely very sorry about that. This last month has been absolutely bananas, and I have been feeling under the weather for the past 2 weeks, and it just hasn't happened. However, I am pleased to inform you that the cabinets did arrive and are sitting in our basement. I realized after they got here that I don't exactly have enough upper body strength to handle the install on my own (or with J), so we are going to have J's dad come down and help us out. Bonus: he's actually installed cabinets before. The cabinets do look really beautiful, so I am looking forward to having them in.
I do want to wish all of my readers a very Happy New Year (and a Merry Christmas for that matter). I am hoping to be a bit more motivated in the coming year and get this basement project completed, so we can move on to other fun things.
Tuesday, December 31, 2013
Sunday, December 1, 2013
Sugar Plumbing Fairy
Hello readers and Happy (belated) Thanksgiving! J and I spent turkey day with my parents and J's parents and had a very nice time. No major hiccups in the kitchen, either. This was the 3rd Thanksgiving we've hosted, so I feel like we are getting the hang of things. Besides the big event, my dad and I were able to tackle a project for the basement reno. And one of my friends, my mom, and I saw the Nutcracker (which was amazing) -- hence the name of this post.
While I was working on the drywall, I happened to be around the backside of the bar nook and noticed something strange. The drain pipe for the bar sink had become disconnected. For the record, I am very happy I stumbled on this prior to installing everything and turning on the water. The nook is on the top-right of this picture.
And here's another angle. Now pipes do not usually separate like this. In fact, it is pretty rare. This is the result of some poor plumbing work to begin with. We seem to be in the business of fixing mistakes from the previous owners. The worst part is that they knew this was a problem because of the caulk. They attempted to use caulk to fix this. Instead, this pushed the problem to us.
Not so excellent work. The problem was that the sanitary T was cracked on the bottom because they had left tension in the line. We had no choice but to take everything out and start over.
We used both a jigsaw and a hacksaw to remove the old pieces.
I forgot to take the picture, but this piece was replaced as well.
We did what we could away from the work space. To cut the pipes, we used the miter saw. This gave a super clean cut. To join the drain pipes, the pieces are primed using purple primer and then set using clear cement. You have about 30 seconds from the time you apply the cement until it bonds, so you have to work quickly. The steps are as follows.
1. Prime both the pipe and the joint with primer
2. Immediately, apply cement to both the pipe and joint
3. Press the pieces together. As you are pressing them together, make a quarter turn of one of the pieces
4. Hold the pieces together firmly for 30 seconds
Both the primer and cement are extremely flammable and smell horrible. We were working around both our furnace and the hot water heater, so we joined any pieces we could join outside of the work space. We also let things dry and air out a bit before moving on. I wore a face mask. It doesn't remove all the smell, but the fumes will get to you pretty quickly.
My dad joining an elbow and a coupler using a 1.5" section of pipe:
Me joining an elbow and pipe:
We replaced everything, so here is the end result.
Notice the extra space behind the hot water heater.
Unfortunately, we had to keep the through-the-wall pipe setup. There just was no where else we could put it.
Last piece (for now). Once I know where the sink drain will go, I will finish up the trap.
Much better.
This was the offending piece. The black is the crack you can barely see.
Inside caulk in an attempt to fix it.
Despite all the photos, this didn't take us too long to do. We started at 1 with no materials and ended at 6. Plus we took a few breaks. Despite the annoyance of having to re-do work, it was a good experience as I now know how to do it and it is not nearly as scary as I thought it would be.
How about you? I'm guessing most of my readers did not do plumbing work over Thanksgiving. We also put up the Christmas decorations, so our house is looking a little more festive. I may or may not cover that in a post this year, as we haven't really changed things up too much from years past, but we'll see. Until next time.
While I was working on the drywall, I happened to be around the backside of the bar nook and noticed something strange. The drain pipe for the bar sink had become disconnected. For the record, I am very happy I stumbled on this prior to installing everything and turning on the water. The nook is on the top-right of this picture.
And here's another angle. Now pipes do not usually separate like this. In fact, it is pretty rare. This is the result of some poor plumbing work to begin with. We seem to be in the business of fixing mistakes from the previous owners. The worst part is that they knew this was a problem because of the caulk. They attempted to use caulk to fix this. Instead, this pushed the problem to us.
Not so excellent work. The problem was that the sanitary T was cracked on the bottom because they had left tension in the line. We had no choice but to take everything out and start over.
We used both a jigsaw and a hacksaw to remove the old pieces.
I forgot to take the picture, but this piece was replaced as well.
We did what we could away from the work space. To cut the pipes, we used the miter saw. This gave a super clean cut. To join the drain pipes, the pieces are primed using purple primer and then set using clear cement. You have about 30 seconds from the time you apply the cement until it bonds, so you have to work quickly. The steps are as follows.
1. Prime both the pipe and the joint with primer
2. Immediately, apply cement to both the pipe and joint
3. Press the pieces together. As you are pressing them together, make a quarter turn of one of the pieces
4. Hold the pieces together firmly for 30 seconds
Both the primer and cement are extremely flammable and smell horrible. We were working around both our furnace and the hot water heater, so we joined any pieces we could join outside of the work space. We also let things dry and air out a bit before moving on. I wore a face mask. It doesn't remove all the smell, but the fumes will get to you pretty quickly.
My dad joining an elbow and a coupler using a 1.5" section of pipe:
We replaced everything, so here is the end result.
Notice the extra space behind the hot water heater.
Unfortunately, we had to keep the through-the-wall pipe setup. There just was no where else we could put it.
Last piece (for now). Once I know where the sink drain will go, I will finish up the trap.
Much better.
This was the offending piece. The black is the crack you can barely see.
Inside caulk in an attempt to fix it.
Despite all the photos, this didn't take us too long to do. We started at 1 with no materials and ended at 6. Plus we took a few breaks. Despite the annoyance of having to re-do work, it was a good experience as I now know how to do it and it is not nearly as scary as I thought it would be.
How about you? I'm guessing most of my readers did not do plumbing work over Thanksgiving. We also put up the Christmas decorations, so our house is looking a little more festive. I may or may not cover that in a post this year, as we haven't really changed things up too much from years past, but we'll see. Until next time.
Monday, November 25, 2013
Drywall repair and lessons learned
Hi friends! A lot has happened since I last gave a basement project update. I was actually going to write this post last night, but I was super tired and watching Once Upon a Time and eating Indian food on the couch with J was just so much more appealing.
I finally finished up the drywall downstairs. In engineering, post-project, we do something called Lessons Learned to detail all the things you did wrong and would fix in the future. This project is no exception. I'll detail what I did first and then cover what I would do differently if I were doing this project again.
So, first off, we left off last time here:
I quickly realized there was a problem on the left side. The outer-edge sloped in from the rest of the wall due to the spacer piece they had put by the edge. A 1/4" difference over 28" is no big deal so the drywall didn't look weird, but I had no span and the drywall would have definitely had a bump in it. In order to get around this issue, I decided to cut back more of the drywall. The back seam will be hidden by our upper cabinets. Of course, when I cut back there were no studs (unlike what you see in the picture). I ended up making "studs" to hang the drywall by taking 2 x 4 pieces and using my kreg jig to attach them to the support above. The studs cannot hold any real weight, but can easily support the piece of drywall.
I used my jigsaw for the drywall cuts. It made super clean cuts for me.
As you can see the new piece of drywall covers the uneven edge nicely. I used drywall screws to attach.
I used drywall tape for the seams. Looking back, I wish I hadn't because there are a few bumps in the finished product. They will mostly be covered, but they still irritate me.
Screwing in the top drywall pieces. A note of warning... ceiling work is a huge pain.
Ceiling drywall pieces in.
I used tape for the inside crease. Here, you can also see the corner bead I put in. Corner bead is used to make drywall corners. It comes in sheet metal, vinyl, and paper-backed. The metal is the least expensive, but, looking back, vinyl would have been way easier to work with. I used mostly nails to attach the corner bead. I was concerned about screws poking out.
I didn't cover this too much, but I used a piece of drywall to cover the small section over on the right side. Luckily it sat flush with the rest of the wall. I had already started spackling over the corner bead on the right side in this image.
The top piece of corner bead being installed.
To get nice smooth edges, everything takes at least 3 rounds of spackling and sanding. There are a few places I wish I had gone over a few more times, but you really just try to do the best you can. It gets super tiring after a while. I started with a 6" plastic putty knife and worked up to a 12" drywall taping knife. You will want the larger one to smooth everything over. What I learned from drywall work is don't expect perfection.
This is the point where I stopped with the spackling and sanding. I had used about a half a tub of joint compound. Also, I needed to get things cleaned up for Thanksgiving.
I used 1-2 coats of primer on everything and then used leftover paint for the outside walls. I plan on painting the inside a different color, but I won't do that prior to turkey day. Here are some finished product pictures. They seem to hide the imperfections. There are a few bumps in real life, but I can always patch things up again before I paint again (since I plan on doing so). The outside walls are done at this point.
I love the header being down. It makes the space seem so much more open. I am really glad I did it.
Lessons Learned.
1. Had I known that I was going to do this much drywall work, I would have ripped out all the drywall and put in fresh stuff at the start of the project. I would have been able to see better what was going on with the electrical and plumbing. I would have had a lot less work to get all the edges smooth. And I wouldn't have had to repair all that drywall at the start of this project. I didn't think ahead enough at the start of the project.
2. I should have taken the header down before tiling. I was having to protect the tile the entire time and it gave me less mobility.
3. I would have used the self-adhesive drywall tape. The plain drywall tape was hard for me to work with on my first project, and I would have done much better with the more expensive stuff.
4. Have I mentioned that everything takes more time than I anticipated? True story.
I hope you enjoyed and learned from my drywall experience. I would say the next post will be about the cabinets, but I don't think it's true. There are a few more steps of prep work before we get there. Plus, I don't expect the cabinets to arrive until early-mid December. Stick with me... we are almost there. :)
I finally finished up the drywall downstairs. In engineering, post-project, we do something called Lessons Learned to detail all the things you did wrong and would fix in the future. This project is no exception. I'll detail what I did first and then cover what I would do differently if I were doing this project again.
So, first off, we left off last time here:
I quickly realized there was a problem on the left side. The outer-edge sloped in from the rest of the wall due to the spacer piece they had put by the edge. A 1/4" difference over 28" is no big deal so the drywall didn't look weird, but I had no span and the drywall would have definitely had a bump in it. In order to get around this issue, I decided to cut back more of the drywall. The back seam will be hidden by our upper cabinets. Of course, when I cut back there were no studs (unlike what you see in the picture). I ended up making "studs" to hang the drywall by taking 2 x 4 pieces and using my kreg jig to attach them to the support above. The studs cannot hold any real weight, but can easily support the piece of drywall.
I used my jigsaw for the drywall cuts. It made super clean cuts for me.
As you can see the new piece of drywall covers the uneven edge nicely. I used drywall screws to attach.
I used drywall tape for the seams. Looking back, I wish I hadn't because there are a few bumps in the finished product. They will mostly be covered, but they still irritate me.
Screwing in the top drywall pieces. A note of warning... ceiling work is a huge pain.
Ceiling drywall pieces in.
I used tape for the inside crease. Here, you can also see the corner bead I put in. Corner bead is used to make drywall corners. It comes in sheet metal, vinyl, and paper-backed. The metal is the least expensive, but, looking back, vinyl would have been way easier to work with. I used mostly nails to attach the corner bead. I was concerned about screws poking out.
I didn't cover this too much, but I used a piece of drywall to cover the small section over on the right side. Luckily it sat flush with the rest of the wall. I had already started spackling over the corner bead on the right side in this image.
The top piece of corner bead being installed.
To get nice smooth edges, everything takes at least 3 rounds of spackling and sanding. There are a few places I wish I had gone over a few more times, but you really just try to do the best you can. It gets super tiring after a while. I started with a 6" plastic putty knife and worked up to a 12" drywall taping knife. You will want the larger one to smooth everything over. What I learned from drywall work is don't expect perfection.
This is the point where I stopped with the spackling and sanding. I had used about a half a tub of joint compound. Also, I needed to get things cleaned up for Thanksgiving.
I used 1-2 coats of primer on everything and then used leftover paint for the outside walls. I plan on painting the inside a different color, but I won't do that prior to turkey day. Here are some finished product pictures. They seem to hide the imperfections. There are a few bumps in real life, but I can always patch things up again before I paint again (since I plan on doing so). The outside walls are done at this point.
I love the header being down. It makes the space seem so much more open. I am really glad I did it.
Lessons Learned.
1. Had I known that I was going to do this much drywall work, I would have ripped out all the drywall and put in fresh stuff at the start of the project. I would have been able to see better what was going on with the electrical and plumbing. I would have had a lot less work to get all the edges smooth. And I wouldn't have had to repair all that drywall at the start of this project. I didn't think ahead enough at the start of the project.
2. I should have taken the header down before tiling. I was having to protect the tile the entire time and it gave me less mobility.
3. I would have used the self-adhesive drywall tape. The plain drywall tape was hard for me to work with on my first project, and I would have done much better with the more expensive stuff.
4. Have I mentioned that everything takes more time than I anticipated? True story.
I hope you enjoyed and learned from my drywall experience. I would say the next post will be about the cabinets, but I don't think it's true. There are a few more steps of prep work before we get there. Plus, I don't expect the cabinets to arrive until early-mid December. Stick with me... we are almost there. :)
Thursday, November 14, 2013
Basement - Design work and more demo
Hello there!
Lots to share since I have been bad about keeping the blog up to date with where things are on the project. Last I shared, we had just finished the tile. I have now moved on to getting the rest of the bar area planned.
First, let me share my mood board with the items I have chosen for the cabinets and countertop.
Cabinets: HomeCrest Cabinets - Cambridge, Sorrel Stain with Ebony glaze
Tile: Ivory Honed and Filled Travertine, The Tile Shop
Sink Base - Moen, 16" x 16" x 8"
Faucet - Moen, Brantford Bar Faucet in ORB
Countertop - Cambria (Quartz), Newhaven
The layout for the cabinets is below (Just took a picture from my phone, sorry for quality). The sink base is 24" wide. The left base cabinet is 15" wide. All three top cabinets are 18" wide. A big thank you to Cabinet Discounters for their help with designing everything (and helping me make decisions).
While designing what we wanted for the cabinets, I realized a pretty big problem. The header of the closet (aka the part that hangs down) is too low for the wall cabinets. After much study (mostly involving figuring out where the studs and support structures were), I figured out I could take down the header. It would make the area look much more professional.
First, I took off the trim pieces around where the closet doors were.
Writing to mark the pieces of drywall.
There are a lot of pictures missing here. Mostly because I was working at all sorts of weird angles and it got frustrating. I took off the back drywall first. I marked where I wanted the drywall to be taken out and then scored the drywall in those places. This involves using a very sharp utility knife. Once the area has been scored, a few good whacks will take down the drywall.
I enlisted J's help.
After the drywall was removed, I was left with the wood used to hold the header. None of this was structurally important. It was attached via a few nails. Some nails, we were able to pry out (J helped). One we had to cut. The other way I got it down was that once the 2 vertical pieces were out, I cut the horizontal piece in half. I then had a lot of leverage to get the remaining nails out.
There were then some misalignment of the underlying structure that I had to fix. I used a 1 x 4 for the ceiling. There was some slight sloping, so I had to use a few pieces of 1 x 4 to get it right. I used screws to attach.
I also had to use a 1 x 4 on the left hand side. Since then, I had to do a bit more work over there, but I'll cover that next post.
There is still a lot of drywall work to do before the cabinets are installed. Luckily I have a few weeks to wait for the cabinets anyway, which gives me time to work on it. Ideally, you would put in the drywall in large sheets, but I am just not going to do that.
It's been kind of fun to see how everything is put together. Drywall is not my favorite, so I hope it turns out okay. I'll cover this next time, but I had to get a little creative with how to make it work. I also have yet to figure out what I will do about lighting. One step at a time.
And last but not least, before I started all this demo work, I did seal the tile.
It was not hard and took very little time. It's a matter of spreading on the sealer, waiting 10 minutes, and wiping off the excess. I did 2 coats of sealer since the travertine was so porous.
I also tucked in the carpet, but I don't have a final picture to share of that. I guess you'll have to wait until the mess is cleaned up. I used plastic and plywood to protect the tile during header demo.
Until next time...
Lots to share since I have been bad about keeping the blog up to date with where things are on the project. Last I shared, we had just finished the tile. I have now moved on to getting the rest of the bar area planned.
First, let me share my mood board with the items I have chosen for the cabinets and countertop.
Cabinets: HomeCrest Cabinets - Cambridge, Sorrel Stain with Ebony glaze
Tile: Ivory Honed and Filled Travertine, The Tile Shop
Sink Base - Moen, 16" x 16" x 8"
Faucet - Moen, Brantford Bar Faucet in ORB
Countertop - Cambria (Quartz), Newhaven
The layout for the cabinets is below (Just took a picture from my phone, sorry for quality). The sink base is 24" wide. The left base cabinet is 15" wide. All three top cabinets are 18" wide. A big thank you to Cabinet Discounters for their help with designing everything (and helping me make decisions).
While designing what we wanted for the cabinets, I realized a pretty big problem. The header of the closet (aka the part that hangs down) is too low for the wall cabinets. After much study (mostly involving figuring out where the studs and support structures were), I figured out I could take down the header. It would make the area look much more professional.
First, I took off the trim pieces around where the closet doors were.
Writing to mark the pieces of drywall.
There are a lot of pictures missing here. Mostly because I was working at all sorts of weird angles and it got frustrating. I took off the back drywall first. I marked where I wanted the drywall to be taken out and then scored the drywall in those places. This involves using a very sharp utility knife. Once the area has been scored, a few good whacks will take down the drywall.
I enlisted J's help.
After the drywall was removed, I was left with the wood used to hold the header. None of this was structurally important. It was attached via a few nails. Some nails, we were able to pry out (J helped). One we had to cut. The other way I got it down was that once the 2 vertical pieces were out, I cut the horizontal piece in half. I then had a lot of leverage to get the remaining nails out.
There were then some misalignment of the underlying structure that I had to fix. I used a 1 x 4 for the ceiling. There was some slight sloping, so I had to use a few pieces of 1 x 4 to get it right. I used screws to attach.
I also had to use a 1 x 4 on the left hand side. Since then, I had to do a bit more work over there, but I'll cover that next post.
There is still a lot of drywall work to do before the cabinets are installed. Luckily I have a few weeks to wait for the cabinets anyway, which gives me time to work on it. Ideally, you would put in the drywall in large sheets, but I am just not going to do that.
It's been kind of fun to see how everything is put together. Drywall is not my favorite, so I hope it turns out okay. I'll cover this next time, but I had to get a little creative with how to make it work. I also have yet to figure out what I will do about lighting. One step at a time.
And last but not least, before I started all this demo work, I did seal the tile.
It was not hard and took very little time. It's a matter of spreading on the sealer, waiting 10 minutes, and wiping off the excess. I did 2 coats of sealer since the travertine was so porous.
I also tucked in the carpet, but I don't have a final picture to share of that. I guess you'll have to wait until the mess is cleaned up. I used plastic and plywood to protect the tile during header demo.
Until next time...
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